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Always grabbing and wanting mama

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yenila
My girl is sometimes really at the end of her rope. She's 22 months now but demands so much attention from me.. When we're outside playing with the dog and the ball it goes fine for 5min and then it's 'grab mama' and she really screams that I have to pick her up. I'm 32 weeks pregnant now so it's not that easy to pick her up anymore and if I say papa will pick you up it's also not okay it has to be mama and she has to be picked up.. Also as soon as I go to the kitchen to cook she has to be picked up. There's no stopping it then. She also starts to saw about poop and pee but she hasn't done anything it's just for attention. Now she's also been at it for about 2 weeks asking for a clean diaper at night usually she does have a full pee diaper but I had to change her 4 times last night but there was only 1 where she really peed in the other ones were still clean. I really have no idea what to do with this. When she wants to be picked up I try to tell her that I can't always pick her up but that doesn't help at all so I try to distract her with something else which sometimes works but not always. Any advice? Is this because she feels that something is going to change soon is it just a phase that she goes through..?

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  1. Monkey #2

    I can kind of recognize that behavior in my son, he just turned 2.
    I'm also pregnant (19w) and I'm already noticing it's getting harder to pick him up.
    Screaming for poop and pee is also common here. But usually when he needs to sleep, at night they're really full diapers when he calls out.
    Maybe she needs some quality time with you? Sometimes I go out with my son alone and he really enjoys it. Afterwards, he can more easily play on his own or do something with papa. And I'm stubborn, if I can't pick him up (while cooking, doing the dishes, ...) I don't pick him up either.
    I do notice often that he just wants to help, so I put a stool next to me and he 'helps' with the dishes. Maybe your daughter wants that too?


    Anyway, good luck and congratulations on the second pregnancy!
  2. Siskaa #3

    I don't have any experience with this, of course. I do know that every child goes through an egocentric phase. Something along the lines of 'my mama', 'my book', ... Maybe with your daughter it's not so much expressed in words (mine, mine, mine, ...) but rather in actions. Especially now that she feels she won't have 'her mama' all to herself anymore. As far as I know/learned, this is a phase she'll grow out of. Maybe try involving her in daily tasks now. Let her help with cooking, washing dishes, ...

    However, sometimes you also need to be able to say no (and I don't mean this as criticism). If you can't pick her up, then don't. She also needs to learn that she won't have you all to herself soon and that she can't always get her way. Children understand much more at that age than we think. Try explaining it to her and involve her even more during those last weeks of your pregnancy.

    Good luck and big congratulations from my side!
    Love x
  3. Madelene #4

    Hi Yelina,
    so relatable! I was pregnant with my youngest when my oldest was almost 1 year old.
    It was awful. I felt tired, sick, dizzy, but she constantly needed attention too. She had so much energy, was so hyperactive.
    I sometimes feel guilty because I couldn’t give her much attention during the pregnancy. And I didn’t consciously witness her first steps either, since I was so preoccupied with the pregnancy and feeling so awful.
  4. Madelene #5

    I think it’s not so much about mom grabbing her attention or necessarily the game itself that matters, but rather about getting your attention. I think you, without realizing it, are already going through changes during your pregnancy, consciously or unconsciously, and she feels that. Kids often sense that changes are coming before they can even really understand it.

    There’s that tension. And she picks up on signals from her mother that you can’t do as much with her or that you get tired faster. She picks up on those things and tries to pull even more of your attention.

    I think you could hold her on your lap a bit more. It doesn’t have to be intense playtime, just some extra cuddles and sitting together. So much is going to change for her soon, so try giving her a bit more attention now. If it doesn’t work out in the form of a game, try cuddling more.

    Or maybe your mom—I don’t know what kind of relationship you have with her—but maybe she’d like to spend more time with your daughter so she doesn’t feel like she’s missing out too much on attention.

    If you’re also tired from the pregnancy, it’s natural that you can’t be as active with your daughter. I know all about that; I experienced it too. During my pregnancy, I couldn’t be the mother I wanted to be for my oldest.

    So maybe it’s a good idea to ask your mom to give her some attention too, so not everything falls on your shoulders.

    We had an au pair, and my husband and my mom took over a lot when I felt sick during my pregnancy and my oldest asked for attention. But it still hurt my mom’s heart that I couldn’t give my girls that attention or play with her. I couldn’t be the mother she deserved.

    Because she was still so little herself, she didn’t even notice my belly getting bigger. There’s exactly 1 year and 9 months between my girls. I underestimated that age difference. It was so hard, pffff.

    But anyway, try to put yourself in your daughter’s shoes. Try to empathize with her in everything. She’s still little and needs her mom a lot, and she unconsciously senses that changes are coming. Try to handle that calmly and let her gently realize that you’re still her mama.

    Cuddle your child more regularly. Maybe that will help reassure her.

    One more tip for when the baby arrives: try not to see your oldest as big right away. She’ll seem big because the baby is small, but don’t forget she’s still little and needs attention too.

    Greetings, Madelene
  5. yenila started this #6

    I've been home for about a month now. Normally, she goes to daycare four days a week. I'm keeping her home more often now, so I have more time to spend with her. She sometimes stays for a few hours so I can do the household chores at my own pace. She can help with the bigger things, like putting the laundry in the washing machine. I also let her help with washing vegetables and stuff, but when I'm frying meat or something, I'd rather not have her in the kitchen. My kitchen is fairly small, and I'm not very good at that, so things tend to splatter around quite often, and I don't want her to get burned.

    But now, she comes and lies sweetly on my lap all weekend in the evenings. I read her stories or softly sing a song, and sometimes she even falls asleep on my lap. I'm really enjoying that. Dad is a bit jealous because she usually likes to cuddle up against him in the evenings.

    I'm also trying to make it clear to her with a doll that a baby is going to be here soon, who will sit more on mom's lap. Then she comes and sits sweetly next to me, stroking the 'baby'.
  6. Madelene #7

    That's nice, Yelnila, to hear that it's like that for her too. Pleased.
    What a good idea, letting her get used to the doll.
    I completely failed to make my oldest daughter clearly understand that a baby was coming.
    She didn't even notice that my belly was getting bigger.
    I always used to carry her around to rock her to sleep.
    When that no longer worked with my big belly,
    I put her in the swing cradle and rocked her to sleep with the cradle. Really a great solution.
    When the baby arrived, she immediately thought it was a doll
    It really took a long time before she understood that she had to be careful and that it was a baby, not a doll.
    We always had to be nearby because she treated her sister like she was a doll.
    She didn't realize at all that it was her sister.
    And that she had to be careful with her. Pfff, it was exhausting. But also cute because she was still so small herself, which my husband sometimes forgot.
    Wishing you lots of luck with the baby soon
    Greetings, Madelene
  7. yenila started this #8

    At daycare, there are also different little babies, and she was immediately very sweet with them.
    She does notice that my belly is getting bigger and sometimes says "baby" to my belly, but she doesn't quite understand yet that she needs to be a bit more careful with it because she loves climbing all over Mama's lap, so I often get an elbow jab to my belly.
    But she does already distinguish between the doll and her teddy bear. Sometimes I let her watch me putting the baby to bed and stuff, and then she wants to hold the baby too. It's a bit clumsy, but she does it well and goes all the way to the stairs, and then Mama has to take over while she just throws her teddy bear against the stairs and stuff, so she knows that you can't do that with the doll. But I'm still curious how she'll react to the real baby.
  8. Madelene #9

    Oh, that helps then she'll also learn to get along with different kids at daycare
    my little girl was at home we have a babysitter who comes to our house and she also went to grandma's regularly
    but she really didn't understand anything yet couldn't really explain things to her either
    She really loved climbing and they always tried
    to climb over the garden fence pfff
    on the playground near our house they always ran away so exhausting especially when I already had a big belly.
    I found the first period quite intense after the birth of the second one. It was also hard during the pregnancy.
    but I had help from our au pair and my husband also helped a lot and my mother helped a lot too
    just because she loved my oldest daughter and was crazy about her still is by the way.
    But thanks to that I was able to keep working and it wasn't too bad
    I could then in the morning and afternoon still recharge from the night feedings I gave 7 months so the night feedings were on me.
    the au pair and my mother kept the oldest busy during the day so I could recover from the nights and also get some sleep with my youngest.
    sleeping with the baby during the day.
    but it hurt me that my oldest had to get used to it at first she kept saying mama to mama
    but then the au pair and my mother distracted her with fun things.
    I must honestly admit that if I hadn't had that help I think I would have experienced the age gap much more heavily and then my husband and I probably would have had 4 or 3 years between them.
    but well it's actually only fun now so cute they are always together looking for each other in class always to play together according to the teacher.
    they are now really best friends have secrets for papa and mama so cute
    I think it will be very nice for your little girl.
    greetings madelene
  9. Madelene #10

    As long as you keep in mind that the oldest is still little, because that's something that gets forgotten quickly with a baby. I sometimes think that if I had started with a second child later, I could have given the oldest more of my attention for longer and built a stronger bond with her earlier. But well, that's hindsight now, and it doesn't matter anymore. I'm catching up now on what I missed with her back then.
  10. yenila started this #11

    Yeah, having kids close together has its pros and cons.
    My parents are also crazy about my little girl, but they live about 2 hours away by car, so it's not that easy to just say "we're going there" or "they're coming here." But if something happens to me or my partner, they're definitely there for us, of course.
  11. Madelene #12

    Yes, that's so true.
    It's indeed not that easy to manage a 2-hour distance,
    but it's nice to know you can always rely on them if needed.
    We live just 2 streets away from my parents, so that's already convenient.
    And I think the advantages of a small age gap
    are that they can really share more things together and are more in each other's world.
    One of the disadvantages is that there's more competition and more fighting for attention,
    which you'd have less of if the oldest was a bit older, because then she'd understand earlier that mom and dad need to divide their attention between the little one.
    But luckily, my oldest didn't feel much of the shift in attention when her sister came along, because grandma and the au pair were there for her.
    Except for what I already mentioned before: she did have to miss my attention for a while.
    As a result, she unfortunately formed a stronger bond with the au pair and started seeing her more as a mother figure.
    But luckily, that's already better now.
    Now that they're both preschoolers, I'm really enjoying the small age gap.
    Now it's really fun.
    But well, that's my experience with it, how I've felt about it.
    How old is your daughter when the little one is born?
    Greetings, Madelene
  12. yenila started this #13

    The baby is due on June 13th and my daughter will be 2 years old on June 19th.
    Birthdays close together but still a 2-year age gap.
    I actually think that's pretty ideal for them, I'd say. I also have a sister who is 6 years older than me, and yeah, she used to play with me when I was little—I was kind of her doll—but once I could really play properly, she was older and felt too old to play with me. We had constant arguments for many years. And now she wants to mother me again. She doesn't have kids yet, so she wants to see me as much as possible and stuff, but I can't really say I'm a family person. As long as they let me do my own thing, no problem, but they always want to have their say about everything and everywhere, and I can do without that, especially from my sister. They recently bought a new car, and the first thing she said was 'did you make sure there's room for 2 strollers?' I was like, 'you don't have kids yourself, so don't tell me how many strollers need to fit in my car...' And then she sends me late at night 'do you have plans for tomorrow? I'm free, maybe you can come by with Ilana.' And she knows that I always plan everything in advance, and then they go complain to mom and dad 'she never wants to visit.' I get it like, 'oh damn, I'll never visit...'
    Hmm, sorry, I just drifted off a bit. I needed to get that out, I guess.
  13. Madelene #14

    No worries, sometimes you just need to let it out
    I have a younger sister myself, we're 13 years apart.
    I always really wanted a sister, but my parents needed to recover after me because I was a crying baby, never really slept through, and there was never a set routine. My parents were exhausted from the sleepless nights. On top of that, I was a very difficult toddler with really bad tantrums, and even at 1 year old, I woke up crying around 7 times a night. So my parents didn't dare have a second child. But after 13 years, I finally got a sister. My sister was exactly the opposite of me, very calm and slept through right after 3 months.
    And she was a calm toddler.
  14. Madelene #15

    But yeah, when she hit puberty, she was really hard to deal with, which was a shame. We clashed a lot too.
    She also has a completely different personality from me, so you don't really understand each other much, unfortunately.
    She is and always will be my sweet, cute little sister in my eyes, but unfortunately, she hardly ever comes to see me, practically never, and our age gap is too big to really share things with her.
    She has her own friends too.
    When she needs money, she knows how to find me
    I can never refuse her; she remains my little sister, much to the annoyance of my husband, because he always says she never comes unless she needs something.
    2 years is a nice age difference, I think.
    My girls are almost 2 years apart. They are exactly 1 year and 9 months apart.
    I can completely understand that it's very exhausting and difficult, as you describe it with your sister.
    That sounds really unpleasant to me too, pff.
    Especially when they think they know everything and just push their own ideas.
    Unfortunately, I sometimes say, you don't choose your family.
    Doesn't matter, just let it all out, that's nice about this forum. I completely understand you
    Greetings, Madelene
  15. yenila started this #16

    Yeah, 13 years is a huge difference.

    I'm curious too, my daughter was also a quiet baby, I did have to get up regularly for her though, still do sometimes but I can't say she's a hell on that front.

    I was also a quiet baby but my boyfriend now apparently was a real crybaby so I'm curious who she'll take after.

    Maybe I'll also briefly say that my daughter's dad left me when she was 8 months old with the words 'I can't handle the responsibility'. He still came to visit her after I insisted a lot and later it turned out he had been cheating on me for quite some time with someone who was 17, he was 24.. But yeah, he wasn't exactly the most responsible guy either, lots of PS3, just giving up on work, partying and drinking,..

    When I then met my new boyfriend, my ex couldn't handle it because well, he could still come to me, actually since I was 16 we had a relationship, he cheated on me yes I put up with it until one day I was fed up and ended it but he kept coming, like once a month or so and I always let him in. Then we got back together, I wanted kids he said he wanted that too, being more grown up and all.. Didn't last long.. And then when he found out I had a new boyfriend (he had meanwhile moved in with that girl and her parents) he suddenly came with 'I want co-parenting'. Then the ball started rolling, lawsuits and whatever, he's still busy now, waiting for a social investigation.

    I know he'll never get co-parenting, I have too much evidence against him that he doesn't take responsibility but I find it so terrible for my daughter, I have to give her to him every other weekend. It's all going relatively well by now, there have been a few incidents where we even filed complaints for beatings and injuries but she still likes going with him, that's not it but my heart breaks then, I had hoped she would get used to it a bit, it's been almost a year now though. This weekend he's coming to pick her up again and I'm already getting worked up about it.
  16. Madelene #17

    Try to think of it like this, even though it's hard for you too. Try to think that you're doing it for your daughter. Later on, she'll have a lot of respect for you because you had the strength to keep the connection between her and her father.
    The difficult part is often that you remain connected to each other through your children.
    And every choice or decision between two adults always affects your children's lives.
    Later on, she will understand and respect you for how you handled things in her favor.
    I do admire how you put this across here.
    And how you think about your daughter despite everything, even though it hurts your heart inside.
    That you still put your daughter's happiness first.
    She'll only appreciate that later on.
    Greetings, Madelene
  17. yenila started this #18

    Yeah, that’s quite a story too. And I totally get how you feel about 'tearing a family apart', but on the other hand, you also have to think that if their relationship had been good, he probably wouldn’t have developed feelings for you.

    But if I read correctly, you were only 18-19 when you got pregnant with him?

    Try to do as much as possible for my little girl. But what I find so terrible... I’m not friends with him or her on Facebook because I really made myself sick at the beginning by staring at those photos and stuff. I was also on the verge of anorexia when he left. I’ve just recently let my new boyfriend into my life; he’s helped me in so many ways. But my parents still have my ex on Facebook. They just say they want to see a photo of my daughter from time to time because I don’t post anything like that on Facebook. So whenever a photo comes up, they always tell me, and I really don’t want to know that, but they don’t listen to me. But what annoys me even more is that it’s always that girl who posts the photos and texts with things like 'reunited with my girlfriend after 14 days' and so on. There are also photos of the dad with our daughter, but he hasn’t posted a single one himself. I also find that very wrong. And personally, I don’t want my daughter to just be thrown onto Facebook by her. If it were him, I could take it more easily, but now it really bothers me. On the other hand, I should be grateful that they’re both good for her. It could have been different, of course.

    But all this drama, I’d say, also has side effects on my pregnancy now. On the weekends when she’s away, my stomach gets so tight from being so worked up. 'Is he going to be on time, what’s going to happen this time again...'
  18. Madelene #19

    Oh wow, that’s really intense.
    I can totally understand why you don’t like it. Having your daughter shared so easily on Facebook wouldn’t feel right to me either.
    Thanks for your understanding about how things went in my past, by the way.
    It’s such a mixed-up feeling, I get that.
    It’s definitely nice, especially that they’re so good for your little girl.
    But everything else around it isn’t easy, of course.
    I can completely relate to that.
    Try to relax as much as possible and focus on the baby growing inside you.
    Try to think like this: no one will bring me down; I rise above everything.
    Maybe emotionally it doesn’t always feel that way, but the more you tell yourself this, the more you’ll start to feel it.
    And your daughter’s happiness is why you’re doing all this.
    Strength for when those tough moments come, and hopefully, it gets easier for you every day.
    Warm regards, Madelene.
  19. yenila started this #20

    It’s not looking better for now. This weekend she was with her dad. I got a call from my parents: 'she’s playing with one of those play kitchens over there, we have one on the attic too, should we take it away?' I was like, you really have to call me for that? I know she can play with a play kitchen; there’s one at daycare. We have a slightly different one but same principle... And then mom started describing all these photos. I just threw the phone down. I don’t know how to make it clear to them that I don’t want to hear this..

    And then when I went to pick her up from her dad on Sunday evening, I got the question: 'Seg, can I take her to the hairdresser because those tufts by her ears are pulling on nothing.' It’s probably partly due to the hormones, but I immediately said 'it’s already on the schedule' turned around and ran away and started crying in the car. She has such a curl in her hair by her ears. I had that too when I was younger but I find it incredibly cute and she just wants it gone.. I thought it was a terrible question. Of course I had talked about it with my partner the week before 'he wouldn’t just get her hair cut or put earrings in without discussing it with me' but now I’ve made an appointment anyway but I can say whatever I want because who knows how I got them back..

    And now it’s getting shorter and my due date is when she’s with her dad.. I’m not really looking forward to that either.. And I’m definitely not going to ask him to bring our daughter to the hospital to see the baby..

    The OB will probably say no if I ask for induction because it would suit me better so I can plan everything..

    I’m starting to feel like a pregnant monster.. Everything has to go according to my plan but I fear it won’t go that way except maybe so..

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