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Crying before sleep

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Valenciax
Hi everyone!
My 4.5-month-old boy is doing super well; he drinks well, eats his fruit and veggie pouches neatly, and is discovering everything.
The only problem is daytime napping... with every nap (about 3 during the day) there's crying, getting angry, pushing me away, flailing around... drama. I always put him in the crib to sleep, first trying his own bed, and if that doesn't work, he's allowed in my bed, where he usually calms down a bit. He often takes very short, catnaps and sometimes suddenly one nap of 1.5 to 2 hours.
Does anyone have tips!?!?!? Or does anyone else recognize this? I really don't know where to look or what to do about it.

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  1. lm #2

    Hi Valenciax!
    I'm just a mom to a 1-month-old daughter, so I don't have much experience. But maybe your baby doesn't need that much sleep? Do you notice that he's actually tired when you put him to bed? Maybe one longer nap and then enough in the evening? Have you tried those things already?
    Good luck!
  2. Jo Guest #3

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  3. Valenciax started this #4

    This is also my first baby, so I find it sometimes tricky to pick up on the signals because it's often unclear. He starts whining and then fusses in his face after a while... I think he's tired, but it could also be boredom? It's tough sometimes. Once he's asleep, though, he sleeps for half an hour to an hour, so he must be tired, right??
    I'll try putting him to bed later or maybe just napping in the afternoon to see if that helps.
  4. Sofie #5

    Hi,

    Tough, right, that first period. You really have to get to know each other first. I have 2 kids and lots of experience in childcare, so I'll share my knowledge. Hope you can use it! Every child is different, so unfortunately, there's no standard manual

    At that age, they weren't awake for more than 2/2.5 hours straight. Babies really need a lot of sleep, even if they sometimes act like they don't, haha. I really tried to establish a rhythm with sleeping, eating, playing together, 'playing alone', and then sleeping again. Often, they give a sign of tiredness before they start grumbling. So it's a matter of finding that first sign.

    My first child also found it terrible to sleep in bed. I accepted this and went walking with him in the stroller or rocked him to sleep and then put him in bed (or even let him sleep in my arms and relax myself for a bit). I thought: it's a baby, and it's logical that he wants to be close to his mom. I often got told not to do that because he'll never sleep in bed like that. Well, no problem at all. Just keep trying, and eventually, it works. He's almost 5 now and has been falling asleep nicely in his bed for 4 years.

    Again.. it's really about finding your way, but consistency really helps. And try to stay relaxed and find a solution that works for you. So don't choose an approach because people say it's the way it 'should' be.

    Good luck with it, and it will really work out!
  5. Anne #6

    Every child is different and you just have to go with your gut. But here's my experience:
    At 4 months, my daughter was also really struggling with sleep, nothing was working anymore, and I couldn't keep her on my arm anymore, and daycare couldn't either. She was so tired but bad at signaling it, and was really fighting sleep. My husband and I decided to let her cry it out, but only for 2-3 minutes, go back in, give her the pacifier again, and say sweet dreams, it's okay. The first time it took 20 minutes or so in total, but after that it was much shorter and then she suddenly slept like a log every time. Longer, more often, better, and much cheerier in between. I think she was just too tired. She's approaching 2 now and still sleeps well, but sometimes when she's been sick and was allowed to get out of bed crying, she tries to mess up the rhythm so she can get out. If I'm sure everything is fine and she's not sick, I let her cry for just a little bit again and then she sleeps like before It varies per situation though, now sometimes if it really doesn't work after a busy day, I do take her out. The downside of her being bigger is that she sticks her hands out, looks at me pitifully, and says: mama out? By the way, I noticed at 4 months that lifting her when she cried and putting her back down when she was calm led to much harder crying, so instead I'd just give her the pacifier, pat her head, soothe her, and go back. Lots of luck and follow your instincts. This worked for our child and she needed it (even though I really hate letting her cry, I still always feel guilty but know it makes it worse if I don't). Soon you'll surely find what works for your child too! Lots of luck
  6. Beagle #7

    She also slept poorly at first and cried in her crib.
    We eventually went for clear routines and consistency, putting her to bed at the first signs of tiredness and letting her cry it out (max 20-30 mins; for us, going in between made it worse, but every baby is different). After a few days, the crying stopped and she slept 2 hours straight again.
    We also used a clock, e.g., max 2 hours awake before bed, which worked well too. After naps, clean diaper, bottle, then playtime.
    She’s 1.5 now and recently only naps once a day. At 4.5 months, babies really need 3-4 naps a day.
    Good luck, hopefully you find a rhythm. If not, you can always ask for advice from the CB
  7. Anonymous Guest #8

    Hi there,
    When our daughter was so young... I rocked her to sleep, cuddled her, or walked with the stroller until she fell asleep. At that age, I really thought it was important that sleep was pleasant for the little one. Now she’s 1.5 years old and sometimes cries in bed, but actually, she finds sleeping and her crib nice 9 out of 10 times.

    It's really about finding what works for your child, but I'd just go with what feels right.
  8. Anonymous Guest #9

    Hi
    I have the same problem. However, my daughter is 7 months old. Nighttime sleep goes fine and she has been sleeping through since she was 2 months old. But daytime sleep is a draaaama. 9 out of 10 times it doesn't work and one day she sleeps once and the next day 4 times. In the car and in front of the TV she falls asleep, but not in her bed. And letting her cry doesn't help either... I've kind of given up and just let her stay awake when she's tired. She eventually falls asleep on her own when she can't anymore.
    She's going to daycare soon and I'm so afraid that she'll cry a lot and they'll leave her lying there. She panics completely and can't breathe. I'm terrified...
  9. Valenciax started this #10

    It's just tough for him and for me. I can clearly see that he's tired, but he has such a hard time falling asleep. I always put him in his little room (so on my bedroom), put his sleep sack on, sing a song, give him a kiss, and turn on the music mobile. I do this for every nap so he knows it's bedtime. But he starts crying before his sleep sack is even on, and I can't just leave him lying there
  10. Floor Guest #11

    Hi anon, I don't think they'll let her cry, you know, then the other kids can't sleep either If my son ever naps for a short time or is already awake, they just let him sit up. If you're worried about that, you need to make that very clear to them.

    Sleep tips: my son also really slept very little around that time sometimes, 3 naps of 20 minutes, or 2 naps of half an hour was no exception. We did benefit from a routine here: sleep, clean diaper, eat, play together, play alone, go to bed. Later he also had tantrums about staying in bed or when we left the room. I tried everything, because yes.. I felt sorry for him (rocking, sitting next to his bed, sitting in a chair in the room, etc). Eventually I trained him too: cry, dad comes back after 10 minutes to tell him to be quiet but we're still here, and then I put him down every 10 minutes without talking. After 4 days, the crying was over.

    Sometimes there's something else of course, then he's eeeeeally upset, and I do pick him up, so I always listen a bit to see if it's theater or if something's really wrong.
  11. Beagle #12

    Anonymous, at the daycare they really won't let him cry. Maybe for a little while because they're busy with another child and have their hands full. You can also talk to them about leaving him with a good feeling.

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