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Madelene
Mama, I can be very brief.
You've clearly already made the choice for your baby's health, which is why you're not really bothered by it, since you've chosen not to feel guilty about it. These are all choices you've already made for your child—a baby in the womb, unfortunately, can't decide for itself whether to protect its health.
You say you eat healthily and exercise well,
but if you smoke, it doesn't really matter much if you eat healthily anyway, because nicotine strips vitamins from your food, which is harmful to your baby
How sad, the baby swallows tender nicotine through your amniotic fluid, polluting your womb where your baby lives.
And the worst part, personally, is that you're already making your baby susceptible to diseases like lung cancer.
All sorts of lung diseases
Because for 9 months it took in your junk.
It's already damaged to some extent.
I myself have two girls. I also smoked, even 2 packs a day. When I got the positive test in my hands, I stopped immediately. I also stopped during my breastfeeding periods because the baby would otherwise get nicotine through the milk. With that thought, I couldn't live.
Really, I stopped for 9 months. Was it hard?
Of course, but I had more than enough reason to do it for my children in my womb.
I was very lazy in the first few months. I slept a lot, was quickly oriented, but still, I left the cigarettes for my belly baby.
I hope you've thought well about what you're doing to your baby now!
It's turned into quite a long story,
but I just wanted to share this.
Greetings, Madelene.

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  1. kruimel #2

    It's common knowledge that smoking is bad.
    But if you want to smoke, go ahead!
    You don't come across as someone stupid who doesn't know the risks smoking brings.
    That meddling and know-it-all attitude, always from women who supposedly know better and seem to feel so good about themselves. Bah.
    Look at your own life first before judging someone else.

    Wishing you a nice pregnancy and good luck with the delivery!
  2. Madelene started this #3

    What I wanted to add is:
    You obviously need to know what you're doing; it's your life and your baby's life.
    But don't be surprised if people strongly disapprove of this.
    Besides, you're definitely not stupid; you're very aware of how bad smoking is when you're pregnant. Precisely because you're so aware of it, I personally think it's really bad that you keep smoking and put your baby's health at risk.
    And
  3. Madelene started this #4

    And I used to be a smoker myself, 2 packs a day. I quit after 9 months with a lot of effort.
    Now I only smoke at parties, never otherwise.
    But if I got pregnant again, I would quit for 9 months and also stop smoking at parties.
    As a mother, it's no longer about you, but about your baby.
    And you shouldn't be surprised if people can't understand that you smoke while you're pregnant and are still aware of how bad it is.
    Smoking is bad, you just can't make it look nicer.
    But if you can't quit, that's fine, you have to know that yourself.
    Greetings, Madelene
  4. Anonymous Guest #5

    The funny thing about your whole argument is that you bring up a whole arsenal of other intense cases, while these are separate from your personal choice and experience. If you really believe that what you're doing is okay, why bring up comparisons or intense situations at all? Just stand by your choice without mentioning any other situations: I smoked during my pregnancy, period.

    I used to be a smoker too, but I quit well before I got pregnant. I'm just wondering one thing: why make so many concessions at work, step back, etc., and not be able to choose to just not smoke for 9 months and then pick up the vaping pens again afterward? Understand me correctly, I'm not judging you for smoking; I assume you've consciously thought about the consequences. It just seems such a shame since you do have the perseverance to stop or cut back on other things.

    Enjoy your pregnancy!
  5. Madelene started this #6

    Compliment to Anonymous, very well said
    That was exactly what I didn't understand about your post: why you bring up all those other things that have nothing to do with this.
    Or is that supposed to distract from the bad things you're doing for your baby right now?
    And I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do.
    You have to figure that out yourself.
    But I'm glad I'm not the one with the baby in my belly right now.
    Maybe you should watch some YouTube videos about babies who have a hard time in the womb of a smoking mother.
    You yourself don't notice any of it, but it does happen to the baby in the womb.
    Every time you take a puff, the baby cramps up from lack of oxygen.
    If you still light one after that, I find that impressive.
    Greetings, Madelene.
  6. eline28 #7

    I don’t smoke myself, but I think it’s super impressive of ladies who stop smoking when they’re pregnant or want to become pregnant.

    My mom always smoked, and even during her pregnancies, we were all born healthy. But what if the child had some issues later in life? Maybe it was due to smoking/drinking/etc.? Then you’d probably feel guilty for your whole life, wouldn’t you?

    I also think it’s really important to pause and reflect on the excuses people come up with when reading certain stories online about people who really want kids but can’t have them. Some ladies you’d so much like to see get pregnant, but it doesn’t work out for them, while other people have kids who maybe didn’t even want them or shouldn’t have had them in the first place. It’s a shame that life can sometimes be so unfair.

    Everyone should do what makes them feel good.
  7. Madelene started this #8

    That's exactly it, Eline. Your baby can be born without any problems, but then it seems so easy, but the little body has already endured a lot in the womb. Think about it: you're in a small space because the womb gets smaller as the baby grows. You're in a room full of smoke and tar around you, and you can't move anywhere for months. That's just terrible.

    But anyway, to get back to the birth, it's actually the dangerous consequences later in life that matter. In their adult life, they're more susceptible to lung diseases, heart problems, and more. Because the body has been exposed to carcinogenic substances for 9 months. Don't focus on the baby being healthy at birth. No, look beyond that; it's about later on.
  8. Madelene started this #9

    Plus de hersentjes in wording hebben dankzij de sigaret ook weinig zuurstof gekregen en dat kan ook later zich pas uiten.
  9. Madelene started this #10

    I wanted to reply to this comment as well.
    First of all, I'm far from perfect
    and I definitely admit that. I just do my utmost best to do what's best for my kids as well as I can.
    I also think it's only normal that when you're a mother, you put yourself aside for a moment, that's what mothers are for.
    I used to be a chain smoker, one cigarette after the other, two packs a day. But I stopped with great effort and even pain because quitting smoking hurts, I know it's also a mental addiction.
    But when I got pregnant with my eldest daughter, I quit, no matter how hard it was.
    I became tearful and really cried every day.
    I often slept to get through the day.
    To not have to feel the pain of withdrawal from cigarettes.
    But it eventually got better.
    Fortunately, it didn't last long, but still.
    I couldn't bear the thought that my baby was getting smoke inside her womb, that's what kept me going.
    I didn't smoke during my maternity leave either.
    And only started smoking again after the maternity leave, not with the little one, of course.
    Just outside.
    With the second one, I did the same from the moment I knew I was pregnant.
    Didn't even touch a cigarette.
    Not during the maternity leave either.
    Now I don't smoke anymore, except on birthdays, otherwise not at all.
    Now about the part where you say you don't smoke.
    You don't have a guarantee of a healthy baby.
    No, that's true, but I do think there's a difference whether you consciously expose your child to carcinogens with all sorts of consequences or if the baby just gets sick by nature.
    One you have control over, and the baby getting sick by chance, you don't.
    It's a bit of a weird example, I have to admit.
    But well, everyone has their own explanation.
    Furthermore, you often only see in the adult life of such a person, who sat in a womb with smoke, whether they are more susceptible to cancer and heart diseases, whatever.
    And you don't have to see that right at birth.
    Furthermore, regardless of whether a baby gets sick or not from the mother's smoke,
    I think the baby choking with every puff is reason enough not to light a cigarette.
    Like when you watched a program on RTL 4 where you saw the fetus shrink after every puff, then you also see more what it does to such a little one.
    It's a shame that some people need images for that.
    But well, everyone really has to figure out for themselves what they do or take in during pregnancy.
    But then you have to be able to handle the truth.
    Greetings, Madelene
  10. Nannie ❤ #11

    Applause for Madelene! I think so too!!
  11. Vivian #12

    It's clearly a story where the mom knows exactly what she's doing to her baby and that it can be very harmful. Hence all the examples to just show how bad other people are. So you give yourself a good feeling; there are mothers who do even worse! And that's true too!

    But you're smart for sure - although I don't understand how you conclude that you're living healthily while you smoke, and everyone knows that this means you're NOT living healthily - so you also know that you're simply taking a risk with your child. That's totally fine, it's your choice. You can also choose to give your child a certain upbringing or not, take certain risks or not, etc. But smoking is overall bad for you and very bad for the little one. So what exactly do you want to achieve with your story? That people here say; puff away!
  12. MaureenBB87 #13

    What those women are doing isn’t right. The people who are ‘mild’ about it aren’t necessarily the ones here. So bringing that up and confronting them with it here doesn’t make much sense.

    Medicines, unhealthy eating, too much stress, etc., etc. – it’s all bad. You know, I know, everyone knows. You don’t even have to be smart to realize that.

    I think you’re looking for people who think the same way as you, who approve of your smoking or at least don’t disapprove.

    I used to smoke a few cigarettes on weekends when I had a glass of wine. But I don’t anymore now. Whether you can just flip the switch or need to keep talking yourself up all day, do what’s necessary. But don’t smoke every day. I’m young, modern, relaxed – but smoking during pregnancy? That’s just so unfair.

    And if it really, really, really doesn’t work out, smoke one cigarette once a week and enjoy it.

    Good luck!
  13. Nannie ❤ #14

    I did read it, you know. I stumble over every sentence and that's reason enough for me not to engage with it. Natural selection of the revolution, I guess. I don't need to convince anyone and only talk to people who are well-meaning and can have a conversation. Discussions, you don't achieve anything with those.
  14. brigitte #15

    I completely agree with Nan.
    That calls for reactions...
    But well, I'd rather join in on some more fun topics with other fun subjects.
    Good luck to everyone...
  15. Monkey #16

    Yes Ezzie, I don't drink alcohol because it makes me feel nauseous and sick.
    It doesn't taste good to me at all and it upsets my stomach.
    We had a romantic weekend in Cologne, the champagne was already ready. I took one sip and I spent the whole weekend on the toilet.. Not very pleasant.
    I did know I was pregnant, I was just overdue when I took a test. And I might have had a glass of cava once a month. You can't really call it a lot of alcohol, but alcohol is alcohol. If people stumble over one cigarette now and then, you can also be critical about a glass of alcohol now and then..
  16. :-) #17

    Just a question for mismicevsky, okay? ;-)
    I just noticed that the topic starter only got responses. And those who defended him didn't get any replies. In normal topics, we sometimes also respond critically to each other.
    It wasn't meant for the ladies who would move heaven and earth to do everything in their power to protect the most beautiful thing we are allowed to receive in our lives.
    And the other topics are indeed fun and cozy, girls!
  17. Nannie ❤ #18

    I know the question wasn't for us personally, but I wanted to respond to it Now I'm done here!
  18. Liesseling #19

    Well, I stopped breastfeeding my first daughter 9 months ago, 13 years ago, and now I'm stopping again. I have a clear opinion on what others do, but they should know what's best for themselves. Live and let live.
  19. Betty #20

    Selfish and typical of this society. We want to keep the baby, but we won't give up smoking and my filet mignon. The so-called "me" society.
    Makes me wonder what else you won't give up later on. Do you really want to turn your life upside down for a child? Are you really ready for it. If you have to make choices later, will you fight for your child or will you give up when you get grumpy or when your own interests don't come first.

    That the environment is mild towards you doesn't mean they approve. They probably condemn you behind your back anyway.

    I find medication for depression just as bad, I know first-hand what you're saddling these children with. With problems that children shouldn't have to deal with, but you can't escape it. And parents who are only busy with their own trivial little problems and have no eye for their child and what's important to your child. And that hurts!

    I've experienced such children of selfish parents myself and I've also had enough of them sitting in class.
    Can't be justified with any cliché.

    Fortunately, you could see this reaction coming, but maybe another mother reads this reaction and reconsiders.

    It's sometimes incredibly sad to realize that some dog breeders set even higher demands on getting a puppy. In livestock farming, you have to meet all kinds of welfare requirements, a whole regulation has been drawn up for it. And people who knowingly risk their children's health are pitied and nothing happens or they need help.

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