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Vaccinate yes/no

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Sarah
Good day ladies,
At my school, we have the subject 'Research', and for this, we need to create a research project on a recent issue. We've chosen the problem that parents nowadays don't let their children get vaccinated.
We're curious when parents who plan not to vaccinate their children change their minds and decide to vaccinate them instead. Is this, for example, by gathering information about the vaccines, or do you have another idea?
You would help us a lot by answering this question.
Kind regards,
Sarah and our research team

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  1. madelene #2

    We consciously chose to wait until our 3 kids were 2 years old to get them vaccinated. And no MMR. And at least 5 weeks between each shot, so their bodies can rest. I find it illogical to start pumping babies who are so tiny full of diseases. Why do we do it this way? Because I myself got very sick as a child. And because I think there's a link between vaccinations and allergies and developmental disorders. In my opinion, the immune system gets overwhelmed by being pumped full so young. Besides, no one naturally has to process 2 or more diseases at once. But babies are injected with 2 or more diseases simultaneously. Super intense. I'm now expecting my fourth and will do it this way again.
  2. Anonymous Guest #3

    The only vaccination I'm still unsure about giving to my daughter is the one for cervical cancer, because it's only been around for a short while and there was a lot of negative news about it. Not just in the Netherlands, but also abroad. But anyway, she's not even 12 yet, so that's still a while away. Maybe by then it'll have improved or we'll know more about the side effects. I personally read the leaflets on the RIVM website so I know what the side effects are and what's roughly being given. She'll get the other vaccines without any issues—I had them myself and I'm fine.
  3. madelene #4

    Some side effects or damage from vaccinations only become visible much later. Like cervical cancer not being properly addressed, which is an understatement.
    They also stay quiet about the consequences of giving so many other vaccinations at such a young age.
    I'm not against vaccinations, but I do have concerns about how things are done here, with them being given so early and multiple diseases being combined into one shot.
    That's why we delayed until age two and skipped the MMR vaccine.
    And definitely not the cervical cancer vaccine.
    But everyone has their own opinion on this, of course.
    This is how I feel about it.
  4. madelene #5

    I saw the program on Nederland 2, I think it was on Pauw & Witteman. About the cervical cancer vaccination, it was terrible, all those girls who became so terribly ill and now take all sorts of medication because the vaccine has damaged their bodies.
    My husband and I, especially my husband, were watching in shocked surprise.
    And the vaccine would only help against one type of cancer while there are many more types of cervical cancer that the vaccine doesn't protect against.
    But in this case, it's not doing its job at all because it has made all those girls sick, they can no longer play sports or work normally, they've been broken. It was heartbreaking to watch.
  5. Anonymous Guest #6

    That's also the reason I'm really hesitant about it. But she's just been born, so it'll still be 12 years before she needs it. And 12 years is quite a long time to do further research on that vaccine. And if I'm still unsure by then, she won't get it.
  6. Anonymous Guest #7

    @sterretje that bit from Bill Gates that you linked is quite suggestive; it doesn't show his explanation for the remark he makes. In poor countries, people have many children because, on average, many children die from diseases that can be prevented with vaccines. Additionally, there is often malnutrition, and healthcare is not accessible or affordable for everyone. People there don't have pensions or nursing homes; children are their old-age security. By having many children, parents know that the chance is greater that a few will survive and grow up to care for them.

    By vaccinating, fewer children die (compare the child mortality rate in the Netherlands with that in Africa), and because fewer children die, the need for many children decreases.

    In the Netherlands, we have an average of 1.7 children per woman. Let's round this up to 2 since there's no such thing as 0.7 of a child. In Niger (Africa), a woman has an average of 7.6 children; let's round this up to 8.

    Because the standard of living (healthcare, nutrition, etc.) is much better here in the Netherlands than in Africa, fewer children die here, and most women in the Netherlands also have fewer children. That's what Bill Gates is generally referring to in his video.
  7. Sterretje1983 #8

    @anoniem: I hope you're right
  8. Anonymous Guest #9

    So much has already been written about this! The Ministry of Health recently sounded the alarm because there are people who think vaccination isn't necessary or have all sorts of vague ideas about it. As a result, only 92% have received the necessary vaccinations, and now the risks for everyone are increasing...
  9. Mereltje #10

    Well said, David! The story of the belt beautifully illustrates why there will always be opponents!
  10. kruimel #11

    David, beautifully described! Thank you!
  11. Zwanger30W Guest #12

    Be ashamed. Seriously, I say this from the bottom of my heart to all the anti-vaxers.
    Girls who get sick after the HPV injections....oh how terrible....you know what's worse? Cervical cancer! There's no pill for that. You're not over it after staying home for a week.
    AND don't forget that your daughter can make others sick too. More and more boys are dealing with throat cancer. I don't need to explain to you how they get that, right?
    An immune system that gets a little boost, or a child who has a contagious, life-threatening disease...I know what to choose quickly.
    So I'm left with the question...who actually knows better? The doctor who has been in school for more than 10 years? Or Aunt Julia who once read something online....yup...

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